- Zurich Insurance
- 1850447799 Call Instead – 016670666
- 1850444500 Call Instead – 016670666
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The following are companies and numbers where I haven’t yet been able to find out a geographic alternative number. If you know of an alternative for any of these that you’d like to share with everyone, please e-mail or post a comment below.
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I’m just trying out something that might help spread the word on SayNoTo1890.com. There’s a respectable group of regular users of SayNoTo1890.com – all of whom realise that it’s a site that can save you money every time that you have to call a 1890, 1850 or 0818 number.
So, to try to share the love, I’ve set up a SayNoTo1890.com Facebook page in the hope of widening the audience for the website. The more people that we have using the site, and submitting geographical alternative numbers for 1890, 1850 and 0818 numbers, the better a resource the website can be in helping us all save money.
So, if you’re a user of Facebook, please go to the SayNoTo1890.com Facebook page and become and fan, and invite your friends to become fans as well.
Thank you.
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If for any reason you’re in the United Kingdom, or anywhere else outside Ireland, and you need to call an 1890, 1850, 1800 or 0818 number, then this is the site for you.
Many of the numbers on this site are provided under the “calling from abroad” section of companies websites anyway – though maybe not made all that easily available in many cases.
Don’t forget to put the +353 before the numbers we’ve published here.
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In an earlier post, I wrote about calling 1890, 1850 and 0818 numbers from Skype – basically the outcome was that you couldn’t and that you’d have to make use of the geographical alternatives provided here on SayNoTo1890.com.
When it comes to calling 1890, 1850 and 0818 numbers from your mobile phone, the story is a little different. You’re perfectly free to call these numbers from your mobile, however, based on the information on the Call Costs page linked above, calling these numbers will cost you more than normal calls.
The first thing to note is that mobile calls to 1890, 1850 and 0818 numbers do not get deducted from your inclusive minutes on your mobile contract package.
So, when you’re forced to pay for those minutes, you could end up paying between 3 and 6 times the cost of calling the same numbers from a landling. Check out the Call Costs page to see what it will cost you for the mobile package that you have.
However, if you use the geographical alternative numbers presented on this website instead of the 1890, 1850 and 0818 numbers advertised by many companies, then you won’t have to pay any extra to make those calls. The minutes, because they’re to geographical numbers, will be deducted from your minutes in your phone contract package.
So, if you know geographical alternatives to 1890, 1850 or 0818 numbers that you personally use, and you’d like to share them with everyone, you can mail us here to let us know.
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I’ve written about this before, and will be following up directly with Dublin City Council, but here’s photo of one of their parking ticket machines where they’re describing the 0818 customer support number for “Park & Pay” as being “locall”. If you check out the “Call Costs” page, you can see this would have significant cost implications for mobile users (likely the only people calling this number).
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1890, 1850 and many 0818 numbers cannot be called from Skype or other VOIP services. So, if you’re overseas, for example, and need to call any of these numbers using your Skype service, you’re in bother.
You can, however, make use of all the geographic alternative numbers provided here on SayNoTo1890.com to call these companies.
So, in a situation where you want to call the Ulster Bank to ask them why their systems are broken again, you might try dialing 1850424365, but you’ll get an “Invalid Number” error.
If you’re abroad when you’re trying to make that call, you might be trying to dial +353 1850424365. Skype, however, will recognise this as an 01 Dublin number beginning 850 – not what you’re looking for.
So, if you’re using Skype or other VOIP services, and need to call an 1890, 1850 or 0818 number, then go to the A-Z link page here and find the company you want to call, or use the search box (top right of this page) and type in the number (no spaces) you’re trying to call to see if there is a geographic alternative available.
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Many many thanks to the hundreds of people who’ve e-mailed me here with new geographic alternative numbers over the last few months. My apologies for the tardiness in making the updates to the website to reflect this new information, but over the coming weekend I will be updating all the necessary pages with the new numbers provided.
Please keep the e-mails and comments coming – the more geographic alternative numbers we can share around, the more money we can all save on calling these 1890, 1850 and 0818 numbers.
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As coincidence would have it, a couple of weeks ago on ValueIreland.com, I wrote about Pinergy and the other pre-pay electricity providers popping up here in Ireland, Pre-paying for your electricity is unlikely to save you money.
I have to say, I’m not a fan because of the implications that pre-paying electricty is cheaper rather than the fact that it’s actually more expensive. To me, it’s sort of preying on those who have little finances to play around with already.
And they haven’t done themselves again with some inaccurate advertising on their current TV advertising (and apologies for the dodgy screenshot):
Now, technically, calling a CallSave number (1850) will generally be cheaper than calling a LoCall number (1890), so consumers won’t be disadvantaged by this carelessness, but to me it’s just a bad sign.
This is a company who’ve paid for national TV advertising, and they can’t get a simple thing like this right.
As a matter of interest, instead of calling 1850945020 (as in the advert) or 1850945021 (from their website), you could try calling their head office on 029 50830 instead and asking to be put through.
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I’ve been updating numbers on the website for the last few hours, but reading through so many of the e-mails that I’ve received, I feel like I have to write this blog post.
I’ve written about this particular topic a few times in the past.
Basically, I don’t provide a telephone directory service here, so e-mailing me demanding that I publish a geographic alternative for some company that you’re looking for, or claiming that it’s unreasonable that I don’t provide a geographic alternative for some company or another, means that I’m probably just going to delete your e-mail.
Just for kicks
I do this in my spare time, and for the most part, most people using this website understand that, and help out. And I try to help people help themselves – when someone e-mails looking for a number, and they receive the automated e-mail politely giving instructions on how they could find the alternative themselves.
I do ask in that e-mail, that if they do find the geographic alternative themselves, that they e-mail back letting me know so that I can publish the number and share it with everyone else.
5%. That’s the number of people who’ve requested a number, follow the instructions on the e-mail, and then e-mail me back with the number to share with everyone.
Still, I go on.
Finding geographic alternatives using Twitter
Someone recently asked in a comment what the geographic alternative for the Parcel Motel was. To be fair, there was no alternative number available anywhere on their website.
I found the number sometime after midnight on a Wednesday using Twitter. Simples.
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If you’re interested in helping out in a project to create a SayNoTo1890 smartphone app in early 2015, please read more here.
Designing an appropriate SayNoTo1890 smartphone app will make it much easier to dial the geographic alternatives for the 1890, 1850 and 0818 numbers, helping you save even more money. It will also facilitate the sharing of information to gather even more geographic alternatives as well as ensure those numbers are always as up to date as possible.
It’s been something I’ve been thinking about for a while now, and a smartphone app for the SayNoTo1890.com website is a regularly requested feature from the users of the website.
This detailed blog post explains how I’d like to go about building this smartphone app, and what assistance I’d like to get and will need to get the app built, hopefully early in 2015.
Irish Independent, Published 20 April 2012 06:00 AM
Fancy paying 15c a minute for a call because it’s excluded from the allocated minutes you have with your mobile phone plan?
How about 6.61c a minute for calls from your landline, even though you’re paying for a ‘bundled’ package that includes all local and national calls?
Well that’s exactly what could happen if you call an 1890, 1850 or 0818 number. So how do these numbers work and why aren’t they working for you?
1890 numbers, known as low‐call numbers, were born in a time before bundled packages when you paid a smaller price for local calls than national ones and we didn’t all use mobiles.
When a business gave you an 1890 number to call them it meant you would pay a flat local per‐minute rate no matter where you were in the country.
With 1850 numbers you could call a business anywhere in the country for a flat all‐in rate; you pay the same whether you’re on the phone for 1 minute or half an hour.
The same rules still apply, but the problem is that we pay differently now. We have multiple phone providers, we can pay a fixed monthly charge for our landline and can call landlines in any county for that.
And anyway lots of us have dumped the landline and now only use our mobiles.
But you’ll find these numbers are not included in your landline package of unlimited calls to landlines, nor are they usually included in your inclusive mobile minutes.
Instead you pay extra; up to 30c for an 1850 call and typically 15c a minute for 1890 numbers from your mobile and 6.61c from your landline.
Many phone operators rarely include them in their packages because they’re not geographic numbers, yet businesses keep asking us to use them.
You can see from a business marketing point of view that having one non‐geographical number gives them the advantage of appearing national rather than regional, plus these numbers can be easy for us to remember. It may suit them, but what about the customers?
It gets worse when it comes to 0818 numbers, known as universal numbers. Unlike 1850 and 1890 numbers, where the costs are shared between the caller and the business, with 0818 numbers the business can charge above the regular rate.
Yes, you guessed it. They actually make money from your call. You’ll pay from 5c a minute from your landline and up to 36c a minute from your mobile.
To avoid these costs you’ll have to find a geographical number. If you can’t find one this is where the website saynoto1890.com comes in.
Useful website www. saynoto 1890.com
Over the past number of weeks, I have addressed the almost 250 outstanding e-mails that I’ve received from users of the website – many thanks to everyone for your time and effort in sending suggestions and requests through.
This has resulted in an update to approximately 180 numbers on the website – either new numbers or updates to existing ones.
There are no over 500 geographic alternatives available on this website, helping you save money when making phone calls.
The breakdown of geographic is around about what I would have expected (though not sure why I’d expected these numbers):
1890 alternatives – 60%
1850 alternatives – 25%
0818 alternatives – 15%
Many many thanks again to everyone who has e-mailed the website in the past. There are so many e-mails, I couldn’t respond individually to each one, but please note that I have read and followed up (in one way or another) on every e-mail received.
Don’t forget, you can reach me via this contact page if you have any geographic alternative numbers to be included on the website, or if there are any numbers that you would like me to try to find alternatives for.
It’s always nice to see people making positive comments about something I’ve put so much time and effort in to over the years.
Here’s some of the overwhelmingly positive comments made about the site across the web.
Sometimes I don’t always have the time to immediately follow up on requests e-mailed through to me where people have 1890, 1850 or 0818 number that they’re seeking geographic alternatives for.
As of January, 2015 I’ve almost caught up with all the requests e-mail through.
The following, however, is a listing of numbers for which I haven’t yet been able to seek out any geographic alternatives.
Maybe you can help out if you, too, are seeking geographic alternatives for any of the numbers below. Post a comment below if you manage to find any useful geographic alternative numbers.
One man’s guide to saving thousands of euro after cuts
The Irish Examiner
Friday October 18th, 2013
JUST like most Irish citizens, James O’Donovan felt the pinch when the recession struck.
Since then, a succession of austerity budgets along with salary cuts cost him dear. He responded by tackling austerity head on — identifying ways to combat it — and has so far managed to save his family thousands of euro a year.
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I also use www.SayNoTo1890.com to avoid dialling 1890 numbers.
“I dial the local equivalent to avoid fees as these are not part of free local/national calls. Most 1890 numbers have a local national equivalent.”
He estimates annual savings of at least €75.
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So as you can see, with some simple smart spending tips, taking the four budget cuts above, you can more than cancel the impact of Budget 2014. You can even gain substantially if you can afford to do some home improvements or venture into property investment.